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Episode 134 | Join the Dog Training in 21 Days Challenge! Meet student leader Leeyah Wiseman

On April 1 we are starting the Dog Training in 21 Days Challenge (#DT21DAYS). We’re using the hashtag on Instagram but if you don’t have IG, you can still participate! Each day there will be a simple challenge for you to complete. They are outlined below and we will be posting about them each day on Instagram as well as sharing what we are doing for it on Instagram Stories. Please join, get your dog excited about learning and flex those dog training muscles!

To participate: Post a video or image everyday for 21 days showing your participation. Tag us and use #DT21DAYS so we can see. For anyone who wants to participate outside of social media, you can visit the link in bio, click Dog Training in 21 Days (http://schoolforthedogs.com/dt21days) and checkout with code DT21DAYS. The code will make it completely free.

Note: It’s okay to miss a day(s), just jump back in when you can.

Today's episode is an interview with Leeyah Wiseman, who will be demonstrating each day on our Instagram. You can also follow Leeyah on Instagram at @georgeandleeyah

The Daily Challenges:

WHAT’S YOUR DOGS $100 BILL?
TEACH YOUR DOG TO DRAW
CAPTURE 50 AWESOME THINGS
TEACH A NOSE LICK
TEACH LOOK (PART 1 OF 2)
TEACH LOOK (PART 2 OF 2)
TEACH SIT WITH A SNAP
BOUNCE YOUR DOG BETWEEN 2 SPOTS
TEACH A HAND TOUCH
TEACH DOWN
TRAIN FIND IT
THE ELEVATOR GAME
THE STAY GAME
TEACH “DROP IT”
MUZZLE TRAINING
RELAXATION PROTOCOL
TEACH STAND
TEACH YOUR DOG WHERE TO WALK
TOUCHING AN OBJECT
THE PAW TOUCH
SHAPING TO PAPER
If you are sharing on Instagram, be sure to tag us and use the hashtag: #DT21DAYS

If you’d like access to all 21 lessons, detailed steps and additional resources visit our on-demand portal - head to the link in our IG bio, click Dog Training in 21 Days and checkout with code DT21. The code will make it completely free.

Good luck!

 

Mentioned in this episode:

Dog Training in 21 Days Challenge

Treat & Train – remote-controlled treat dispenser

Barkour Group Classes at School for the Dogs

 

Transcript:

[Intro and music]

Annie:

Hello listeners. Thank you for being here. I am interviewing today, Leah Wiseman, who is, we're trying to figure out exactly what to call her, but for the moment I'm going to call her our student leader of our upcoming 21 day challenge. Leah, Hey, thanks for being here.

 

Leah Wiseman:

Hey, thanks so much for having me today. I'm so excited to chat about our challenge.

 

Annie:

I know, me too. So I wanted to have Leah on both to talk about the challenge and we can go through some of the specifics, but also just wanting to kind of hear about Leah's journey into dog training. She has been a podcast listener, I know, since she got her puppy.  Since you got your puppy, I don't know if I should be, am I speaking to you or like the greater people?

 

Leah:

Right? It’s kind of surreal to be talking to you live when it's I'm so used to like hearing your voice.

 

Annie:

Aw. That's nice. You know, like my husband won't listen to the podcast, we except when he listens to it.  Every now and then he'll listen to it on double speed. And I'm like, you know, there are people who don't even know me, who don't mind listening to me at regular speed. [laughs] He's like, I listen to you enough. I already know all this stuff that you're going to say. 

 

So, yeah. Why don't you talk a little bit about how you got into dog training? I know you have two dogs now, is that right?

 

Leah:

No, I just have George.

 

Annie:

Oh, what happened? Didn't you have two for a little while?

 

Leah:

We did, so we adopted a boxer puppy who turned out to be not a good fit for George, and just not a good fit for another dog. She needed to have a single dog household. And then we found a new home with the rescue that was a single.

 

Annie:

Good for you. I'm sure that was hard, but I think often that's like the right thing to do.

 

Leah:

Yeah. I actually listened to, I remember I was like trying to make the decision. And I listened to that one podcast episode that you had like, okay. This is the right thing.

 

Annie:

Oh yeah, right. I did an episode where I'm like, maybe you shouldn't really keep your dog [lauighs].

 

Leah:

It's a hard thing to talk about, but it's important that you do what's best for the dogs, and what's best for you if you're going to be taking care of them.

 

Annie:

Yeah. And you know, I was talking recently, oh maybe it was the episode with Terra Newell about codependency in, well, in general, but in relationship with pets. And I think we need to be careful, like, anyone who has like a codependent tendency needs to be careful to live a life that's right for them. And not contort their lives to a point of being uncomfortable in order to accommodate pets that might actually be happier elsewhere.

 

Anyway. So that was Olive, who is now happy in another home, I hope. But tell me about George, and how George came into your life.

 

Leah:

So interestingly enough we had had Madison, our dog for about 10 years, and we rescued her. And she was like my boyfriend's heart dog. So I had never had a puppy before, or really had a dog other than kind of helping him take care of Madison. But she was really his dog. And so we went to a rescue maybe about eight months ago, nine months ago now. And it was going to be another dog for my boyfriend.

 

And when we got him, George, we brought him home and, I don't know, there was just like an undeniable connection between me and George.  They have a great connection too, like, George loves his dad, but I'm his person. 

 

Annie:

It’s interesting, you weren't like, I got to get a dog, dogs are my thing. You were like, we'll get a dog for you, hun?

 

Leah:

Yeah. Yeah. So I’d grown up watching Cesar Milan and thinking dogs were great, but I never had owned a dog before. It was interesting getting George.

 

Annie:

So you watched Cesar Milan because you liked dogs, but you didn't hound your parents to get you a dog?

 

Leah:

No, no. We grew up in rental homes in San Diego here. So like small houses, no yards, really. So it kind of wouldn't have really been fair for dogs, which I'm kinda glad they didn't let me get one. I'm sure I asked, probably. But I never had them growing up and yeah, I was into that show.  

 

So then I got George and we took him to the vet and the vet was like, do you want some advice on puppy training? And I was like, yeah, sure. And she mentioned the Puppy Start Right book, I think. And then she's like, listen to the School for the Dogs Podcast.

 

Annie:

Oh, that’s so cool.

 

Leah:

Yeah. I was like, okay cool. So I went home and bought the book and I didn't really even get into the book, and then I looked up your podcast and I just started listening to a bunch of episodes.

And since George was so young and in such a perfect period to implement these training things that I was hearing on your podcast. Even just at first, when I didn't even understand anything about dog training, really, I was just like, we shouldn't be saying no to him. Like, let's say like, yes for everything else.

 

I was just trying to convince my boyfriend of this new world that I was being introduced to, of good dog training.  Like behavior science. And then I saw how fun it was and how well it worked with George and I kind of just fell in love.

 

Annie:

That's so cool. I mean I feel like I fell more in love with my dog when I started training him, which  I got him in 2005, and I didn't really learn anything really about training till he was like five or so. And it really does do something to a relationship when you start to see how their wheels turn and how you can help them feel good about things and how you can…

 

Like my dog Amos, Oh, I miss him so much. He used to get this like this stoned, happy look sometimes during training, like, Oh my God, I’m so into this, I love it I love it! And it's like, to be able to help another animal get to that mental state and be so excited to like… I don't know, it's, it's special.

 

Leah:

It is.

 

Annie:

And well, and I know that your background is in human relations which is something I know you and I have emailed back and forth about before.  But when you told me that, I was like, Oh, well, you're just moving from like training one animal to training another. I mean, I'm guessing learning about this stuff has probably given you insights into the world of human relations that you didn't have before.

 

Leah:

Oh my gosh. Yes. I think that as soon as I made that connection listening to your podcasts like I told you when we emailed, I was just like, Whoa. Cause I was just getting the understanding of operant conditioning, classical conditioning, like positive reinforcement.  Positive punishment is used a lot. I mean, getting written up.  Or, you know, all kinds of things; raises bonuses, that kind of stuff, positive reinforcement. So.

 

Annie:

I mean, in schools, too.

 

Leah:

Schools, yes. Yes.

 

Annie:

I think I was held back a lot in school by fear of doing poorly, like not taking a class or not trying something because I was worried, like I wouldn't get an A.

 

Leah:

Yeah.

 

Annie:

But human relations. Well, I did an episode about this actually inspired by you where I talked about how much I appreciate human resources and human relations before.  Because it's just like a different application of the same science that involves its own technologies and skills and structures that I feel like are not particularly my strong suit, but I can like appreciate it from the outside.

 

Leah:

I think it's just like, once you make that connection and you can like choose where to apply it whenever you need to. Like, when you see how it works with dogs, and then you have the ability to kind of use the same concept.  Like I did, when I was working before I got laid off, when I was working in human resources, I was like, how can we use positive reinforcement more than negative reinforcement here in this company? And that wasn't really their focus.

 

Annie:

[laughs] They also probably were like, what's negative reinforcement?

 

Leah:

Exactly. Yeah. They're like, are you trying to bring dog training into this?

 

Annie:

[laughs]  Do you use it with your boyfriend?

 

Leah:

Yeah. And it's like, once you learn these things and then you see how they work with dogs, I don't know. You can't go back from that. You can't be like, this is not going to work with humans. Like it works with everybody.

 

Annie:

Yeah. Yeah. Although I find like in my relationship it can be hard to figure out how to use positive reinforcement.  Because like, which I know sounds awful and ridiculous. When I'm specifically like trying to change a behavior, it's really hard to not like nag him. I think it's because we spend so much of our lives together and we share so many of the good things, you know? We share food, we share money, we share love, we share our daughter. 

 

It's not like I have, like, if I'm turning off access to any of those things, or turning on access to any of those things, like, you know what I mean? It's harder to control those things that are just like in our lives all the time. And you know, I can't just toss cookies at him when he's good. Although, I mean, he could totally toss cookies at me and that would really be okay. 

 

Leah:

Maybe it's a little easier since we're not married yet.

 

Annie:

I do try and use antecedent arrangements though sometimes with him and arrange the environment in ways.  Or just like be very clear with my cues. I actually, I just bought, we have this argument about like the dish towel. He was always putting the dish towel, draping it over a chair in our kitchen and it drives me crazy cause we have like a million hooks for dish towels.  And I've like nagged him a million times about it.

 

And it's been like such a source of arguments that at this point I'm like, aren't you just conditioned to know, like, don't you just like go to put the dish towel there and like, haven't you been classically conditioned to feel like it's the wrong thing to do? But he hasn’t.  But I finally, it actually hasn't come yet, but I just ordered a little sign to stick on the chair that says don't do it.

 

Leah:

Oh my God. Yes, exactly. That's definitely the kind of thing that you have to do in human resources is like, please don't do this, actually put signs in people's faces.

 

Annie:

Right? Like be ridiculously obvious about it. Oh my God. I guess that's like the — I don't know if you have to do this in California. Probably because it's California, and we're in New York. They're not that different, but like the sexual harassment training things that you have to do if you work at a company, or if you run a company that like, like I do even. Oh my God. It's so —  these, I don't know what yours was? It's like a video/PowerPoint about how to not sexually harass people that's like, so obvious that it's like, is anybody actually watching this and learning something?  But I guess maybe it's just like a don't do it sign.

 

Leah:

Yes, exactly. I actually, at my last job, I had to cause that law just came into effect starting like 2020. I had everybody, all of the employees, all of the managers, all of the staff and the CEO, give them that harassment training webinar and make sure they did it. And it was, yeah, I got a lot of complaints about how stupid it was.

 

Annie:

Yeah. It's, but again, like now that we're talking about it, I'm realizing maybe it's just, it's not the content that matters. It's just the acknowledgement that matters.

 

So, what's some of the fun training that you've done with George lately, and what’s George like? I mean, I know him from his photos and his videos, but tell me more.

 

Leah:

Okay. what, what can I tell you?

 

Annie:

Do you know, so he came from a shelter. Was he born in the shelter or?

 

Leah:

So I don't know. So the rescue is a animal center, Helen Woodward down here in San Diego. It's really good one. And they rescue from the more high kill shelters, I guess, is what it is. And so I think what happened is all they could tell me is that he just came from one of the rescue partners, or from a shelter in Southern California. And they had gotten him like a few days before I had found him at the rescue, the day we got him. So he had just come in like four days before, had gotten neutered like two days before.

 

And they told us he was massive and shepherd and he was twice the size of all the other eight week old puppies there. So yeah. So, and this sounds kind of bad, but I'll just out myself. I was like, are you sure you don't want to see any other puppies? Like to my boyfriend and my boyfriend was like, Nope, this is the one. And the lady was like, please, please take nobody else has seen him today.

 

Because he's just — like I said, San Diego doesn't have a lot of big yards, so we have a big yard. So we were like, yeah, we're going to take you. And we didn't look at anybody else, even though I had said to…which I'm so glad we didn't because it just would've made it much harder.

 

Annie:

And how old was he again?

 

Leah:

He was eight weeks. Yeah. And he's still like a really kind of like a scared boy. He's just really shy and he doesn't really he doesn't really like new people very much, but then really quickly he warms up to them.  And really quickly he'll feel confident with people and feel confident in situations.

 

But I don't know, there's definitely a little bit of reactivity in him that I'm still training.  He's just amazing though, because he's really smart and he picks up on training so quickly and has so much fun doing it. I just made a video on why I use positive reinforcement training. It's just because it's so fun, especially for the trainee, I guess, to participate in, to learn.  And like, I don't want to do anything that's not fun especially like if I'm trying to like learn something ne.

 

Annie:

Well, and also it's like fun for you too, because it's like a feedback loop, right?

 

Leah:

Yes, exactly.

 

Annie:

Which to me is such a reason to not use punishment and dominant space training. Like if only because I think it's less fun to go around like yelling at your animal. Although, I mean, I guess it could feel — well, I mean, I know a lot of it's not about yelling, as we know from Cesar Milan, some of it's kicking or strangling.  Or I mean, even just being stern. Anyway, a lot of it to me is I mean, I guess what's appealing about it is when you punish a dog and it works then that's immediately reinforcing the behavior of doing whatever you just did.

 

But I just don't like how it feels to be someone who's yelling and nagging, and, and doing all the things that I do to try and change my husband's behavior [laughs]. Fortunately, there's not a lot of behavior I want to change, I guess, because I'm clearly not very good at it.

 

But yeah, it feels nice to have fun with your dog. And I just can't imagine it feeling that nice to like, I don't know, going around like shocking your dog or whatever.

 

Leah:

Yeah. I was trying to convince my sister actually.  Like last week I was talking to her cause she has a three year old Yorkie mix. She lives in Washington, so we don't live near each other. But she kind of just was asking me training questions for the first time. And I was trying to explain this type of training, because it's kind of foreign sometimes to people.  Even people who have dogs, they've like never even heard of positive reinforcement training sometimes. 

 

Annie:

Dog training –I know what I used to think and so I imagine other people must think, like dog training was just one thing.

 

Leah:

Yeah, exactly.

 

Annie:

You train a dog like you weed a yard. Like there's not — like who the hell needs techniques or science?

 

Leah:

Right? Yeah. They're just sentient beings. [laughs]

 

But I was like, yeah, like don't you want to have a good bond with your dog or, you know, and she was like, yeah, I guess you're right. Like I see some people training at the park and they just kind of look like a-holes. Like if they're yelling at their dog, I'm like, yeah, you don't want to be that person.

 

Annie:

Yeah. Well, I mean good for her for even seeing that. I mean, I thought Cesar Milan really had it going on. I never thought he looked like an asshole.  But now I do.  Now I do. I can't even watch it with the sound off, because I get too upset, because the dogs just look too upset.

 

Leah:

Yeah. I haven't even tried since my mind has been changed.

 

Annie:

Yeah. I've thought I've thought about doing like annotated commenting version on — maybe, maybe we should do that as like a group.

 

Leah:

Oh my gosh.

 

Annie:

Watch Cesar Milan. And then just heckle.

 

Leah:

Yeah. Like dub it with like what you would imagine…

 

Annie:

Yeah. Oh my God. We should totally do that. That'd be really, that would be a good time for the right person. Like me.

 

You've done some kind of trick training with him, right? I've seen you on Instagram. Like he'll weave between your legs, right?

 

Leah:

Yeah. So we do middle, he's really good at touch. We do that a lot. We just started doing some muzzle training with a Kong wobbler top, just the top.

 

Annie:

Oh, smart, okay.

 

Leah:

Because we don't have a muzzle.

 

Annie:

Well that's a great thing. That's a great thing to use.

 

Leah:

Yeah. I got the idea from the the 21 day course and

 

Annie:

Oh, well, that's a good segue! [laughs]

 

Leah:

Yeah.  The muzzle training.

 

Annie:

Which I actually forgot about. So the background of this challenge is, it's actually its own course that we offer as one of our on demand courses. And we were trying to come up with like, what would be a fun challenge? And we thought, well, why don't we just give people this course and they can all do it together.

 

So I wrote it about a year ago, the whole thing. But part of the reason I'm actually really excited about this challenge is because I'm hoping it'll produce videos, which will then be something we can add to the course. But I wrote the course sort of thinking about like, if I was writing to a friend who just got a dog and trying to give them something new to do every day, like, what would I tell them?

 

And it's funny because I wrote this before I lost Amos, before we got Poppy. And I kinda hadn't thought about it in a while, but now looking through it again, I'm like, Oh, I'm excited to do this now with Poppy. Because like a lot of these things are things I probably wouldn't have thought to do with Amos, just because we'd been together so long.  Although you could totally do these with —

 

I know, it's so funny. So funny.  Poppy is like playing with a wobbler top right now. She just went and got it. She must be psychic. Anyway, I wouldn't have thought to do them with Amos but you could totally do these with a dog that you've had for a while too. 

 

So what was your first thought, like looking through these when we asked you to do this?

 

Leah:

Oh, totally. So my first thought was that exactly, like anybody could do this with their dog. And they're interesting, they're kind of like, some of them are going to be really fun to show off.  Like tricks for your dog to do. Like teaching your dog to draw is pretty cool.

 

Annie:

Oh yeah. Well, I think you said you were a little nervous about that one. Right?

 

Leah:

Yes, but then I actually read it and it kind of seems like I could probably do it.

 

Annie:

So why don't you explain to people who have no idea what we're talking about, what it means to teach your dog to draw.  And maybe also why it sounds like something you might want to do.

 

Leah:

So you use — let me open it up actually. So you use like a touch screen. So it sounds really hard cause I'm like, well, what am I going to do? Put a marker in George's mouth? And so then I actually opened up the course and looked at the instructions. Yeah. So all you have to do is like smear peanut butter on your phone.

 

Annie:

[laughs] That's certainly one way to start. Yeah. Although, you know what, you don't — so the idea is basically to, instead of teaching your dog, or in addition to teaching your dog a hand touch, you can always teach an object touch.  Be that teaching them to touch your knee or touch the spoon or touch the eraser side of a pencil or whatever. But that instead of doing one of those objects, we're going to use a touch screen, be it a phone or an iPad.

 

Because, one thing I like about doing that, especially with people who are new to training, is  with the app that we like to use, which is called Doodle Buddy, you can select like a stamp feature.  And the second your dog's nose touches the screen, it goes like Brrrrringg!  Bringing it up on my phone and see if I can make one of the sounds.

 

But it's like it does the job of the clicker for you, because it's like pinpointing the moment that your dog is touching the screen. So it actually takes a little bit of the work out of it because you don't have to worry about your timing. So you could start by putting peanut butter on it, if you really need to like create engagement. But for a dog who's done any kind of nose touch, even if it's just a hand touch, you don't even necessarily have to do that. Cause he'll probably be like, what is this thing? I think that's fun and yeah, and you get like a little drawing made by your dog.

 

What are some of the other ones that you're excited to show off? I'm excited for you to show off all of them by the way. 

 

Leah:

I'm excited to show off touch because we're so good at it. And I'm excited to do more of the muzzle training because I think that one's like really important.  And the options, you can really use like anything. I dunno, coffee containers, one of the options, or obviously the Kong wobblers. So that's kind of cool because I thought we would have to buy a muzzle to start muzzle training, but you can start training with, you know, different things.

 

Elevator game that one's going to be good because it kind of is a good opportunity to show off, what is it negative punishment? Yeah. Which is kind of controversial to even even say the word punishment, even though there's a negative in front of it.

 

And the other one that I'm excited to do is the first one, the show off a hundred dollar bill, which is where you kind of give your dog maybe like 10 or maybe like six to 10 different options of different treats, and kind of get to know what their high value treat is, and what order they're going to go for the different items in.  And then you can kind of track it and see what they like the best, which is always really good, because I think a lot of people don't know that.  I didn't know that before I gave him different options.

 

And sometimes I hear people say that like their dog isn't food motivated.  And maybe, just maybe, they just need to try different things. So I think that'll be a good thing for everybody to try.

 

Annie:

Yeah, it's, bringing it back around to humans. I always think it's so important to know what the people you love are into, if you want to reward them well.

 

Neat.  Well, I really love your reels. I think you have a talent. You have a gift for that medium. And so I'm excited to see some of the reels that you're going to do, and you're going to be doing takeovers on the weekend showing off some of the things, right?

 

Leah:

Yeah. Yeah. That'll be super fun. I’m excited.

 

Annie:

I think we're doing that every weekend in April.

 

Leah:

Yes. Right. I think maybe you, me and Gilby are going to do them.

 

Annie:

Yeah. Awesome. And well, and I'm hoping other people will share their efforts so that we can learn from each other. That's a fun moment to show off. I'm excited about doing it too. Like I said, I think it's going to be a nice way to run through training with Poppy. 

 

I've been doing, the eighth day one, which is bounce your dog between two spots. I think that's such a great — like basically you're teaching your dog to go to the crate or their bed or whatever spot, but then rewarding them far away. And I do it with the Treat and Train, which is the little remote controlled treat dispenser that I'm obsessed with using. And it's so much fun with Poppy just to get her to get some energy out.  Just like simply running from one end of our apartment to the other.

 

And I actually just bought a tracker for her. I didn't buy it for that purpose.  I'm sending her with a group that takes dogs hiking once a week. And they want you to have a GPS tracker, like Fitbit type dog thing. And I was thinking that it'll be fun to see how many, like how far I can clock for her, just running from one side of our home to the other.

 

You have a big backyard. Right? So have you done any kind of like Barkour type stuff with George yet? Like exercising or junkyard agility?

 

Leah:

No, but I really need to.  He kind of uses the plants out there sometimes to run and jump off of, but I'm thinking about either getting some agility for the backyard, or even there is some agility classes out here that I could take him to that have the whole thing.

 

Annie:

You can also make up your own obstacles. Actually, you should take our Barkour class at some point. I think you'd have fun with that.  But it's all about like how to use obstacles in your house. Although I'm interested in agility. I mean, living in New York City, it feels like such a foreign thing, but I think it's a real entry point for a lot of people into dog training. And it seems like a fun thing that you can do.

 

It's funny, like I remember thinking agility would be fun with my dog Amos when he was younger, but then like in New York it just seemed like such a big deal. And I felt like, I don't know how serious I really want to be with this. Like I just want my dog to learn how to run up and down a teeter-totter, that's enough. Yeah. If you get into that, tell me, I want to more.

 

Leah:

Yeah, I'm a little nervous. Cause George, he gets just really pumped.  When I take him out in public, like one thing we just get told all the time, Oh, he's excited! He's 30% boxer. So he's energetic, especially around other dogs. He loves other dogs. So I don't know. It's like kind of balancing whether, like bringing him and letting him just kind of have all that energy, and then spending the time training him to be calm in those situations so that he's not always bouncing off the walls everywhere, but yeah.

 

Annie:

So maybe wait until he gets a little bit older, and I mean, he's still a puppy, basically. Big puppy. How much does he weigh?

 

Leah:

75 pounds.

 

Annie:

Oh my God. And he's probably still growing.

 

Leah:

Yeah. He’s 10% Great Dane.

 

Annie:

Wow. Wow. That's awesome. Great Danes are pretty fabulous.

 

Well, anything that we haven't covered that you want to cover or mention?

 

Leah:

I don't know. I'm not super great at coming up with things to talk about.

 

Annie:

[laughs] I don't believe it. Well, where can people find you on Instagram since Instagram is where you're gonna be leading this?

 

Leah:

Oh, right. yeah. George and Leah, @georgeandleah. I changed it up recently, cause it's, you know, it's all about me and George, and you know, G comes before L in the alphabet. So that was, he's kind of a star. Nobody watches it for me.

 

Annie:

Well, I don't know. You got that purple hair.

 

Leah:

I know. That's actually, that's a filter. 

 

Annie:

That’s a filter?!

 

Leah:

Yes!

 

Annie:

There's a purple hair filter?

 

Leah:

Yes. You know, it's funny, I'm going to post something today with shocking people, my transformation without the filter.  Because my hairstylist actually messaged me and was like, is your hair really purple? You know me in real life, you do my hair, my hair’s not really purple.

 

Annie:

Wow. Well maybe it should be, it looks good. What's the filter that you use? Hold on. I wanna have purple hair.

 

Leah:

I'll send it to you on Instragram.

 

Annie:

That’s so funny.  The truth is revealed! But you know, it's always like, the stereotype, like, is she really blonde? Does she really have purple hair? The answer is no.

 

All right. Well, I'm super excited that you're going to be doing this and I'm sure I will see you between now and then on Instagram, or on Clubhouse, or wherever you and I hang. And thank you so much for taking the time to do this.

 

Leah:

Thank you for having me. It was really fun.

 

Annie:

If you'd like to participate in our Dog Training in 21 days Challenge, just follow us on Instagram @schoolforthedogs.  We will be posting about the different challenge steps every day, starting Thursday, April 1st for 21 days. If you look in the show notes, I've spelled out what you can expect each day.

 

If you want to get more detailed information about each step of the challenge through the end of April, we are offering up our Dog Training in 21 Days course which you can get for free. You can just go to schoolforthedogs.com/dt21days, and you can purchase it there at checkout. Use the code DT21days, and there will be no charge. 

 

Really excited to be doing this, really excited Leah is demonstrating it. And I hope that if you do take part, you will tag us so that we can see how you're doing. You don't have to do every day, but I think if you do, you'll get a lot out of it.

 

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Do you need some help teaching your dog where you want him to pee or poop, and when? If so, I hope you'll check out our brand new totally free house training guide. You can find it at schoolforthedogs.com/house. It's filled with lots of really good tips on how to train a dog to potty in the right spot. But it also is going to explain to you how to teach your dog to do it on cue. So go check it out schoolforthedogs.com/house.

 

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Annie Grossman
annie@schoolforthedogs.com